General Your Thoughts On Religion

[Nate the Great 560]

WARNING: This Thread May Contain Comments Or Material You May Find Offensive!

Explain how you feel about religion and atheism, answer these questions (there will be a quiz later ):

• What religion are you (or atheist)?
  
• Why are you religious (or atheist)?
  
• How do you feel about other people and their beliefs?
  

Please be mature and respectful!

(Below is a Word document from a argument on Facebook between many people. I have changed the names of everyone except myself for their own personal respect and privacy.)

Topic On Religion.docx

[Derek 30]

Personally in my opinion its either you believe in something or you dont. Labels just specify.

But also take in consideration everyone is different.

ex: My mom and uncle where both raised religious but, my mom didnt like how she felt about it so when I came along she basicly said if you want to you can go if not then ok, so to be honest I never really stepped into a church other then weddings. My uncle on the other hand kept the religious part and perfers his children/my cousins to go since its more of a family thing for them.

But for me overall there are few things I can say I believe in but at the same time I don't so its more of a see it to believe it deal but I also dont consider myself religious nor athiesth.

Best thing to do is be understanding and respectful when it comes to others on the subject yet at the same time be honest on how you feel towards them yet understanding of their point of view in a way that doesnt make you come off like you're downing on them and the religion. In other words share your view but from a meutural point of view with out being to harsh about and from there how ever they want to take it in is on them not you.

Hopefully I helped a little.

[deadcanadian 271]

this topic could turn our very bad.

I'm atheist, i have never believed in religion, i have always seen flaws in it. And most of which see the reality of how our world is and for as much of a security religion can be for some people within their minds. there is always the most problems caused by it.

Although on this subject i wont go about saying people are wrong to believe what they want, i personally feel the need to keep away from it though. So i ask they don't preach it to me.

[Nate the Great 560]

this topic could turn out very bad.

I'm atheist, i have never believed in religion, i have always seen flaws in it. And most of which see the reality of how our world is and for as much of a security religion can be for some people within their minds. there is always the most problems caused by it.

Although on this subject i wont go about saying people are wrong to believe what they want, i personally feel the need to keep away from it though. So i ask they don't preach it to me.

I agree with you Dead. I believe religions have been created throughout history as a crutch. Also, this could become a flame war, I just hope everyone is respectful or moderation may be required.

[Derek 30]

this topic could turn our very bad.

I'm atheist, i have never believed in religion, i have always seen flaws in it. And most of which see the reality of how our world is and for as much of a security religion can be for some people within their minds. there is always the most problems caused by it.

Although on this subject i wont go about saying people are wrong to believe what they want, i personally feel the need to keep away from it though. So i ask they don't preach it to me.

I agree with you Dead. I believe religions have been created throughout history as a crutch. Also, this could become a flame war, I just hope everyone is respectful or moderation may be required.

I see where both of you are coming from but please take into consideration that not all religious people are crazy.

I know alot of die hard believers that are also chill enough to not go preaching it to the world. It sucks that the 50% crazy religious people ruin it for the other 50% that have the common sence not to fight about but say you got your beliefs and I got mine that's that.

[Ninja4826 16]

I see where both of you are coming from but please take into consideration that not all religious people are crazy.

I know alot of die hard believers that are also chill enough to not go preaching it to the world. It sucks that the 50% crazy religious people ruin it for the other 50% that have the common sence not to fight about but say you got your beliefs and I got mine that's that.

I agree with you Dead. I believe religions have been created throughout history as a crutch. Also, this could become a flame war, I just hope everyone is respectful or moderation may be required.

this topic could turn our very bad.

I'm atheist, i have never believed in religion, i have always seen flaws in it. And most of which see the reality of how our world is and for as much of a security religion can be for some people within their minds. there is always the most problems caused by it.

Although on this subject i wont go about saying people are wrong to believe what they want, i personally feel the need to keep away from it though. So i ask they don't preach it to me.

I agree with Dead and Xepler, but I also agree with Derek. Unfortunately, my family (extended family included) is part of the 50% that ruin it for everyone, and that's what made me become athiest. But there are also crazy athiests that go around preaching the same, if not more, as the theistics. I actually have a friend that started a long and loud argument with my mother over religion, and it did not end well. The problem is the idea of religion itself is what causes problems (athiesm as well).

[ZenithRaptor 44]

this topic could turn our very bad.

I'm atheist, i have never believed in religion, i have always seen flaws in it. And most of which see the reality of how our world is and for as much of a security religion can be for some people within their minds. there is always the most problems caused by it.

Although on this subject i wont go about saying people are wrong to believe what they want, i personally feel the need to keep away from it though. So i ask they don't preach it to me.

tbh I think its just that loads of people who follow a religion mess it up and go do crazy stuff for example osama bin laaden.

also without religion and no belief in the hereafter you could probably do literally anything you want since there will be no afterlife for punishment.

no flames, no anger included.

[Nate the Great 560]

tbh I think its just that loads of people who follow a religion mess it up and go do crazy stuff for example osama bin laaden.

also without religion and no belief in the hereafter you could probably do literally anything you want since there will be no afterlife for punishment.

no flames, no anger included.

Most theist believe this, and I can understand why, but its completely false. Most atheist know that even if your don't believe in a higher up one must still act decent. I'm atheist and I try to be the nicest person I can possibly be, infact I think being atheist makes me a even nicer person. Its really nice not having to worry about a heaven or a hell. And Mohammad, thank you for your imput and being mature and civil

[Ninja4826 16]

You see, my thought on religion is that it was the first attempt at an authority or civility being created, and after all the "if you do this, you'll be punished for eternity" stuff got around, it kind of stuck and spread. But then again, I could be wrong! In a discussion on the afterlife, there is no true way to tell who's right or wrong.

[Lord Zedd 1,771]

I don't follow any religion, and in that I don't label myself as anything at all.

For anyone else; do as you want, but keep it to yourself and/or those with similar beliefs.

[Ninja4826 16]

I don't follow any religion, and in that I don't label myself as anything at all.

For anyone else; do as you want, but keep it to yourself and/or those with similar beliefs.

that's exactly how religion should be taught.

[Derek 30]

overall people will be people and it all depends on who they are and how they act in the end. it not you, it not religion itself but how the person is who preaches it.

[OrangeMohawk 407]

I'm a Christian, and my pastor even said one time: If they say they don't want to hear it, stop preaching it to them. I think everyone should have that mentality, regardless of religion.

I think that some parts of the Bible are irrelevant today, for example, if I remember correctly, the part where it says "A man shall never sleep with a man" was God setting up Israel as a nation; and isn't a life rule to live by; that's what the 10 commandments are for (for us Christians).

Sadly, even though the U.S. constitution says in the first amendment that there is a freedom of religion, some issues (gay marriage) are still effected by particular religions; mainly Christianity. I think people should be able to do whatever makes them happy as long as it doesn't interfere with someone else's happiness (except if they're unhappy just cause they're uncomfortable with it, because who gives a f*ck)

Edited March 13, 2012 by OrangeMohawk

[Mclovin 3]

Most of my life I was wondering. But for a few years I have been an atheist. Someone told me(please don't get offended) that religion is for the weak, and they need the constant security of "god will protect me".

Like I said it's what someone told me so don't get mad at me. When I was younger people told me that god will protect me, but it's extremely hard for me to believe.

here are two stories that my dad(also an atheist) told me, and they make me wonder

When my dad was a kid, he knew a famous preacher that was on tv alot. One day he was going to be on tv with his brother, the preacher was going to speak in tongue push him back, and the person behind him was supposed to catch him/her.

Well they thought it would be funny to not fall and just stare at him since they thought it was fake. So when my dad was next in line the preacher spoke in tongue and touched his head. Well he spread his arms, and fell back and so did his brother. He had NO control over it.

When my dad was young his asthma was so bad he lived in a bubble. It would get worse and better. Well he was at a restaurant with his family and the preacher from the last story, while out of a bubble since his asthma got better, but he still had regular asthma attacks that could kill him.

They were talking about it, and the preacher said he would cure it, and said a weird saying(god do this blah blah). Then told my dad to run around the restaurant. So he ran around it even though he was extremely embarrassed. The preacher then told him that it wasn't strong enough, and to run around the parking lot. He finally finished, and didn't feel any different.

He recently noticed that he hasn't had an asthma attack in over 40 years.

[AMD 885]

I just wanted to thank everyone here for being so mature about the subject. As soon as I saw the topic title I was ready to close it but realized that you were all bringing up some intelligent points. If this thread continues to progress in that same fashion, it could really help us bond together better if we can come to an understanding of each other's beliefs.

I have a lot that I want to talk about, but due to time constraints today I'll just say that I'm Christian and that I think that your "Christian" friends on FB have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. More on that tomorrow though.

[Mc Jayce 8]

I cant tell anyone what to do, but Christians in general are good people. Some might not act right or be arrogant but humans are not perfect and each has the choice to be them self (weather that is goo or bad). I am Christian, and try to helpful; I still slip up, but hopefully it shows (however I would not act arrogant and say your religion or not is wrong)...

why do I? Well there is a lot on this matter and a lot that I cant explain. I'm no theologist but try to find a religion that is essentially there to take on all of your sins and forgive you for anything you have done, and have a personal relationship with god himself even as a friend! Its weird because my grandpa is atheist and never taught my dad anything, but he lived the hard life mostly bar tending and working on cars, and found it by himself. He has taught me a lot which I eventually took on myself.

So if anything ever happens know that you can pray and be heard. Im just a young dude, but I think all the talk about what religion has done in the past (wars, laws, etc....) was arrogant people with power. That is not the religion but rather a few people screwing it up for everyone. I dont know too much but I hope the best for you all!

[ZenithRaptor 44]

I just sorta noticed that all the conversations here are mostly christian-atheist. Not trying to say that's bad or anything just saying you could talk about other religions as well. (I mean like you could talk about them but I'm not saying you have to follow the others)

I like this video I watched a while ago: (the guy was a atheist at first btw)

I hope we can stay like this (no hate no anger no flames no rude comments)

[Nate the Great 560]

I just sorta noticed that all the conversations here are mostly christian-atheist. Not trying to say that's bad or anything just saying you could talk about other religions as well. (I mean like you could talk about them but I'm not saying you have to follow the others)

I like this video I watched a while ago: (the guy was a atheist at first btw)

I hope we can stay like this (no hate no anger no flames no rude comments)

I'll be sure to keep a close eye on this thread and report anyone who bashes religion. And the reason its mostly Christian VS. Atheist is because, well as you can imagine Christianity is more common in the English speaking areas of the world.

[michael1026 2]

I'm atheist. I believe that people are religious because they believe everything will turn out good. If you are good, you go to heaven and you are rewarded. If you are bad, you go to hell, and are punished. If you want something to happen or not happen, you pray. I believe it's simply just a way to explain all the complicated stuff in the world, (How everything came into existence, why we are superior to other animals) and to make you feel better about when you die, or when something bad might happen.

[EHEBrandon 43]

Sorry for bumping this but I sort of stumbled across this.. Everyone made some very good points and I respect everyones choice and opinions on life!

 

Me personally I am a Christain I have always been and I always will be.. I was raised as one and my family was very religious when it came to believeing God and Jesus... But of course they still lived there lives like everyone else and also didn't judge people.. I am the same exact way.. My great grandmother was raised in the church as well.. But over all people believe in what they want and you cant change that. You just need to respect them as long as they respect you... That is how I see it. You don't judge anyone by sexuality, race, or religion... Judge by the personality.. I am very religious actually when it comes to believeing like my parents did.. But I still live my life. Everyone sins.. All I do is ask for forgiveness..

 

That is my personal point of view on it actually and its interesting to see other peoples thoughts on it as well... I am actually happy to see how well the community is with this subject...