Danis

This sounds like a nightmare, but it will all be worth it in the end. Thanks for clarifying.

When I compared the structures of both, they seem to be very similar. on the 360 usermaps there's a lot of xbox specifc junk like the CONtainer part, but it's obviously consistent. So theoretically the xbox segments can be cut out and the file will start with blf like on the Halo online usermap. Now if that's possible, there's also the problem with the idents which are obviously different on Halo Online. So to solve that, one would have to replace all 360 idents with Halo online ones, and it should work. I hope this makes sense, if not I'll try to make this more clear,The reason I want to do this is obvious, but if it isn't It's because soo much custom content has been created for halo 3 over the past 8 years, that it would be a waste not to include it in the halo online version. I want to know if this is possible, or if I'm just speaking nonsense here.

This sounds very interesting, I've seen alot of people using the magnetism stuff online. If the host could just force everyone to use the default values, that would be really helpful to mitigate that. Could you please elaborate on this?

how do I begin?, I don't care if I have to sit there for like a week and find each offset manually How do I start?

All the sizes of the weap tags are different, they also have different offsets and such - f77 -> 14f7 for the first one, and the number of them changed too (82 to 97). How do I find out the exact difference when all the data is different? Or rather, assuming I have no idea as to the structure (completely new build, for example) - how do I find out the locations/tag names/etc in the first place?

Thanks

When looking at the new build, 99% of the things appear as unnamed hex values like here Clicking on any of them results in a crash, does that mean that assembly found the values at their appropriate locations and they're just undefined? Also where can I find the tag tool? Thanks

Do I use cheat engine to find the values, or do I just randomly go in specific increments and just see if any values popup in the plug-in editor? I don't think anyone has ever done a tutorial on this kind of thing, which is sad. Right thanks, I'll get on fixing it.

I wish there were more tutorials on building the plugins from scratch, I've looked at things from 2012 up until now and I didn't find any tutorials If there are new values or the padding has shifted, how do I find the new values?

I found all of the tags that were causing the trouble bipedcreaequipjmadmulgprojskyavehiweapzone Now I just go to the plugins folders and just adjust the offsets or do I need to find new values and include them in the plug-in?if so, how do I go about finding the value?Thanks.

Thanks for the replies, didn't really think I would get replied in the first place Could you maybe give me some basic examples on the differences and I'll build on that? I really don't know where to start, thanks.

Maybe some of the tags are encrypted or something?

It let me load the tags but changing anything results in this error message: System.OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown. at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.set_Capacity(Int32 value) at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.EnsureCapacity(Int32 min) at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.Insert(Int32 index, T item) at System.Collections.ObjectModel.Collection`1.InsertItem(Int32 index, T item) at System.Collections.ObjectModel.ObservableCollection`1.InsertItem(Int32 index, T item) at System.Collections.ObjectModel.Collection`1.Add(T item) at Assembly.Metro.Controls.PageTemplates.Games.Components.MetaData.ReflexiveData.Resize(Int32 count) at Assembly.Metro.Controls.PageTemplates.Games.Components.MetaData.MetaReader.VisitReflexive(ReflexiveData field) at Assembly.Metro.Controls.PageTemplates.Games.Components.MetaData.ReflexiveData.Accept(IMetaFieldVisitor visitor) at Assembly.Metro.Controls.PageTemplates.Games.Components.MetaData.MetaReader.ReadField(MetaField field) at Assembly.Metro.Controls.PageTemplates.Games.Components.MetaData.MetaReader.ReadFields(IList`1 fields) at Assembly.Metro.Controls.PageTemplates.Games.Components.MetaEditor.RefreshEditor(LoadType type) at Assembly.Metro.Controls.PageTemplates.Games.Components.MetaEditor..ctor(EngineDescription buildInfo, TagEntry tag, MetaContainer parentContainer, TagHierarchy tags, ICacheFile cache, IStreamManager streamManager, IRTEProvider rteProvider, Trie stringIDTrie) at Assembly.Metro.Controls.PageTemplates.Games.Components.MetaContainer..ctor(EngineDescription buildInfo, String cacheLocation, TagEntry tag, TagHierarchy tags, ICacheFile cache, IStreamManager streamManager, IRTEProvider rteProvider, Trie stringIDTrie) at Assembly.Metro.Controls.PageTemplates.Games.HaloMap.CreateTag(TagEntry tag) at Assembly.Metro.Controls.PageTemplates.Games.HaloMap.tvTagList_SelectedTagChanged(Object sender, RoutedPropertyChangedEventArgs`1 e) at System.Windows.RoutedPropertyChangedEventArgs`1.InvokeEventHandler(Delegate genericHandler, Object genericTarget) at System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs.InvokeHandler(Delegate handler, Object target) at System.Windows.RoutedEventHandlerInfo.InvokeHandler(Object target, RoutedEventArgs routedEventArgs) at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(Object source, RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean reRaised) at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(DependencyObject sender, RoutedEventArgs args) at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEvent(RoutedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Controls.TreeView.OnSelectedItemChanged(RoutedPropertyChangedEventArgs`1 e) at System.Windows.Controls.TreeView.ChangeSelection(Object data, TreeViewItem container, Boolean selected) at System.Windows.Controls.TreeViewItem.Select(Boolean selected) at System.Windows.Controls.TreeViewItem.OnIsSelectedChanged(DependencyObject d, DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.OnPropertyChanged(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.FrameworkElement.OnPropertyChanged(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.NotifyPropertyChange(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs args) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.UpdateEffectiveValue(EntryIndex entryIndex, DependencyProperty dp, PropertyMetadata metadata, EffectiveValueEntry oldEntry, EffectiveValueEntry& newEntry, Boolean coerceWithDeferredReference, Boolean coerceWithCurrentValue, OperationType operationType) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValueCommon(DependencyProperty dp, Object value, PropertyMetadata metadata, Boolean coerceWithDeferredReference, Boolean coerceWithCurrentValue, OperationType operationType, Boolean isInternal) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValue(DependencyProperty dp, Object value) at Assembly.Metro.Controls.WPFTreeView.MetroTreeViewItem.OnGotFocus(RoutedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.UIElement.IsFocused_Changed(DependencyObject d, DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.OnPropertyChanged(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.FrameworkElement.OnPropertyChanged(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.NotifyPropertyChange(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs args) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.UpdateEffectiveValue(EntryIndex entryIndex, DependencyProperty dp, PropertyMetadata metadata, EffectiveValueEntry oldEntry, EffectiveValueEntry& newEntry, Boolean coerceWithDeferredReference, Boolean coerceWithCurrentValue, OperationType operationType) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValueCommon(DependencyProperty dp, Object value, PropertyMetadata metadata, Boolean coerceWithDeferredReference, Boolean coerceWithCurrentValue, OperationType operationType, Boolean isInternal) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValue(DependencyPropertyKey key, Object value) at System.Windows.Input.FocusManager.OnFocusedElementChanged(DependencyObject d, DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.OnPropertyChanged(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.FrameworkElement.OnPropertyChanged(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.NotifyPropertyChange(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs args) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.UpdateEffectiveValue(EntryIndex entryIndex, DependencyProperty dp, PropertyMetadata metadata, EffectiveValueEntry oldEntry, EffectiveValueEntry& newEntry, Boolean coerceWithDeferredReference, Boolean coerceWithCurrentValue, OperationType operationType) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValueCommon(DependencyProperty dp, Object value, PropertyMetadata metadata, Boolean coerceWithDeferredReference, Boolean coerceWithCurrentValue, OperationType operationType, Boolean isInternal) at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValue(DependencyProperty dp, Object value) at System.Windows.Input.FocusManager.SetFocusedElement(DependencyObject element, IInputElement value) at System.Windows.Input.KeyboardNavigation.UpdateFocusedElement(DependencyObject focusTarget) at System.Windows.FrameworkElement.OnGotKeyboardFocus(Object sender, KeyboardFocusChangedEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Input.KeyboardFocusChangedEventArgs.InvokeEventHandler(Delegate genericHandler, Object genericTarget) at System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs.InvokeHandler(Delegate handler, Object target) at System.Windows.RoutedEventHandlerInfo.InvokeHandler(Object target, RoutedEventArgs routedEventArgs) at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(Object source, RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean reRaised) at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(DependencyObject sender, RoutedEventArgs args) at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseTrustedEvent(RoutedEventArgs args) at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEvent(RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean trusted) at System.Windows.Input.InputManager.ProcessStagingArea() at System.Windows.Input.InputManager.ProcessInput(InputEventArgs input) at System.Windows.Input.KeyboardDevice.ChangeFocus(DependencyObject focus, Int32 timestamp) at System.Windows.Input.KeyboardDevice.TryChangeFocus(DependencyObject newFocus, IKeyboardInputProvider keyboardInputProvider, Boolean askOld, Boolean askNew, Boolean forceToNullIfFailed) at System.Windows.Input.KeyboardDevice.Focus(DependencyObject focus, Boolean askOld, Boolean askNew, Boolean forceToNullIfFailed) at System.Windows.Input.KeyboardDevice.Focus(IInputElement element) at System.Windows.UIElement.Focus() at System.Windows.Controls.TreeViewItem.OnMouseLeftButtonDown(MouseButtonEventArgs e) at System.Windows.UIElement.OnMouseLeftButtonDownThunk(Object sender, MouseButtonEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Input.MouseButtonEventArgs.InvokeEventHandler(Delegate genericHandler, Object genericTarget) at System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs.InvokeHandler(Delegate handler, Object target) at System.Windows.RoutedEventHandlerInfo.InvokeHandler(Object target, RoutedEventArgs routedEventArgs) at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(Object source, RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean reRaised) at System.Windows.UIElement.ReRaiseEventAs(DependencyObject sender, RoutedEventArgs args, RoutedEvent newEvent) at System.Windows.UIElement.OnMouseDownThunk(Object sender, MouseButtonEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Input.MouseButtonEventArgs.InvokeEventHandler(Delegate genericHandler, Object genericTarget) at System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs.InvokeHandler(Delegate handler, Object target) at System.Windows.RoutedEventHandlerInfo.InvokeHandler(Object target, RoutedEventArgs routedEventArgs) at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(Object source, RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean reRaised) at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(DependencyObject sender, RoutedEventArgs args) at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseTrustedEvent(RoutedEventArgs args) at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEvent(RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean trusted) at System.Windows.Input.InputManager.ProcessStagingArea() at System.Windows.Input.InputManager.ProcessInput(InputEventArgs input) at System.Windows.Input.InputProviderSite.ReportInput(InputReport inputReport) at System.Windows.Interop.HwndMouseInputProvider.ReportInput(IntPtr hwnd, InputMode mode, Int32 timestamp, RawMouseActions actions, Int32 x, Int32 y, Int32 wheel) at System.Windows.Interop.HwndMouseInputProvider.FilterMessage(IntPtr hwnd, WindowMessage msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled) at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.InputFilterMessage(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled) at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled) at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(Object o) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs) at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHelper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)

Since halo online got updated and added the new maps, I wanted to start modding but when I tried to add one of the new maps it gives me this error How do I go about adding support? Thank you, and sorry if this is not the correct forum for it.